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  JW views on saving and retirement

  by neat blue dog in

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  probably one of the most common causes of cognitive dissonance many jws face is the choice to plan for retirement.

  if you're a good jw, then you should believe that the end will be coming soon, surely before you retire.

  that's what i did when i was younger, blowing decades that could've been better spent because i believed the end was coming, so any planning was a waste of time.

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  neat blue dog

  I’m curious about how you got in a conversation with other JWs about retirement

  All three were brought up by me. The first was regarding my job. The second two were regarding their jobs, because they were considering changing employment.
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  JW views on saving and retirement

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably one of the most common causes of cognitive dissonance many jws face is the choice to plan for retirement.

  if you're a good jw, then you should believe that the end will be coming soon, surely before you retire.

  that's what i did when i was younger, blowing decades that could've been better spent because i believed the end was coming, so any planning was a waste of time.

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  Reminds me of the wise virgins who had oil for their lamps, but not enough to share with those who chose not to plan ahead.
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  JW views on saving and retirement

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably one of the most common causes of cognitive dissonance many jws face is the choice to plan for retirement.

  if you're a good jw, then you should believe that the end will be coming soon, surely before you retire.

  that's what i did when i was younger, blowing decades that could've been better spent because i believed the end was coming, so any planning was a waste of time.

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  neat blue dog

  PS: I forgot to mention that the nice brother who does plan ahead isn't wealthy or have degrees or anything. He just works very hard and is responsible with what he has.
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  JW views on saving and retirement

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably one of the most common causes of cognitive dissonance many jws face is the choice to plan for retirement.

  if you're a good jw, then you should believe that the end will be coming soon, surely before you retire.

  that's what i did when i was younger, blowing decades that could've been better spent because i believed the end was coming, so any planning was a waste of time.

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  neat blue dog

  Probably one of the most common causes of cognitive dissonance many JWs face is the choice to plan for retirement. If you're a good JW, then you should believe that the end will be coming soon, surely before you retire. That's what I did when I was younger, blowing decades that could've been better spent because I believed the end was coming, so any planning was a waste of time. After I woke up I started to focus on reality and make good financial plans and habits. Here's my experiences of talking with several JWs on the topic:

  When my 401k was brought up, one sister offered her 2¢, saying 'Just be careful you don't put too much stock in that, because the end is really closer than ever. It's not even going to be, like, even another 10 years the way things are.'

  Another brother, when I was giving him advice about planning for his future said 'Noooo, I don't want to be sidetracked by that or get materialistic'. I said 'It isn't about living lavishly, it's about having funds for your children, unexpected events and so you don't have to work until you're elderly'. He replies 'Well, I just can't handle that. Last time I saved money I bought a nice car. This is better for me spiritually.'

  Then there's the other brother I talked to. He's a sincere believer, but he's also one of the sweetest guys I know. All of his kids are either inactive or disfellowshipped, but they all have successful careers and happy families, and he associates with them freely. He also is not a stickler and is super easygoing and loving. And when talking with him about financial matters, he brings up retirement like it's a given, and he has already taken steps in that regard.

  Of course we know that the WTS is the biggest hypocrite in this regard, playing the stock market, flipping real estate and amassing funds.

  So what have been your experiences with JWs in this regard?
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  Stupid armageddon false alarms

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i was 5/6 i remember being in the car with my jw mom and a jw sister.

  they noticed a yellow ish glowing cloud in the sky which really freaked them out and they both declared that it must be a sign that armageddon was here!

  they then spent the whole car trip declaring that the police and army were about to come and round up all of us.

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  Yes, my mom said that several times when there was a thunderstorm.

  Imagine being afraid of a thunderstorm, like a 3-year-old.
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  local, strange jw thinking

  by lancelink in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was reading today that the last star wars movie will be playing next week.

  doing a little searching, i found that there have been 12 movies in the saga total, ( box office, total (12 films): $9.323 billion.)..

  it got me thinking about when the empire strikes back came out, it was the second movie ( 1980).

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  I love that 1968 quote. They cant even read their own comments?

  No they can't in many cases, because pre-1970 Awake's aren't on the online library.
  
  
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  So how are they going to proclaim peace and security when in the last days the kings of the North and the South are to be engaged in battle?

  by nowwhat? in

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  neat blue dog

  A lie can never make sense, but of course it's important to keep calling this stuff out. Good point 👍
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  The 144,000 are being deported!

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  promises aside, deportations under trump dropped this year.

  december 12, 2019, 5:17 am pst.

  detainees at an immigration and customs enforcement processing center in el paso, aug. 2, 2019.

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  neat blue dog

  Wow clickbait, you got me 😅
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  Can someone compare the midweek meeting now to what it was say in the 60`s - 80`s ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i can`t believe the tidbits i`m finding out about the changes ,dumbing down of the meetings i used to attend and participate in up until the late 1980`s ...

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  Slidin Fast:

  I agree with everything as that's my situation too. I just have to add that creativity in talks can still be possible, (it probably differs by area). I've been counciled once or twice, but I'm pleasantly surprised with the sheer amount of reverse witnessing I've been able to get away with over the last 4 years.
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  Daisy Ridley (the actress who plays Rey in Star Wars) faces an SJW backlash

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, it's been said before how the left ends up eating its own.. and now we have the case of star wars actress - can i say 'actress'?

  - daisy ridley ('rey').. in a recent guardian article, she essentially denies her privilege by saying that her star wars co-star john boyega ('finn') is just as privileged as she is.. daisy ridley descends from the fitz-corbetts (landed gentry) on her mother's side; her paternal grandfather was high up in the bbc and she went to a fee-paying school.

  and john boyega grew up on a peckham council estate.

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  How is she part of 'The Left' exactly?

  I think that most people by default are subject to 'the left' because in many areas it's the primarily promoted ideology, and until they do research/accept certain facts they'll be prone to it whether or not they hold strong opinions on various matters related to it. For instance, Daisey Ridley was quoted as saying that every "sane" person opposes Trump. This could be a strongly held belief, or it more likely is the assumption of what 'everybody' knows to be true, a common, basic fallacy.